Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Hi Rob, > I'm convinced there is no bottom > >(boy am I in for a surprise!... dunno....) I had an experience recently > >of my core essence being fear, and that was big and surprising and even > >more surprising was that it wasn't just "fear", it was "just fear". > > How did the Watcher sort that out? ) I suppose that when the monster > comes to eat you, everywhere you look is monster... And then everything is > Self... so... > The experience was one of yawning during a breathwork session (been doing both separately - here I tried the combo...) I'd been yawning awhile, and what would happen is energy moving about, often feeling strong in the palms of my hands. I noticed the energy very strongly in my hands and had the insight that the energy wasn't moving strongly there, but was stuck there. I wondered at this and started looking more closely at what the energy was, and suddenly "saw" that it was fear. Ths struck me as funny because I had been cultivating the yawning thing and thinking in terms of "prana", perhaps "k" - neither being words that had meaning, but words I had come to seek a meaning for. So then the fear intensified, but just as I was about to freak out and let go of it (in defeat), I noticed that I could see it as being "justt fear", like an old friend. Then I could let go of it in gratitude and joy. That was wonderful and funny, and cosmic. I did it over and over again, seeing central issues as just fear. It was very freeing. I'm not done yet (I think). It's a new tool in my bag o' tricks. I hope that answers the question. I never felt during this experience truly in danger, but the change to seeing the fear as "just fear" was recognition, and was accompanied by energy waves, and a numinous feeling like I was learning a cosmic secret of great significance. (I like that feeling.) Love, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2000 Report Share Posted May 2, 2000 At 21:55 28/04/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Rob, Hey Mark! >snip >The experience was one of yawning during a breathwork session (been >doing both separately - here I tried the combo...) I'd been yawning >awhile, and what would happen is energy moving about, often feeling >strong in the palms of my hands. I noticed the energy very strongly in >my hands and had the insight that the energy wasn't moving strongly >there, but was stuck there. I wondered at this and started looking more >closely at what the energy was, and suddenly "saw" that it was fear. >Ths struck me as funny because I had been cultivating the yawning thing >and thinking in terms of "prana", perhaps "k" - neither being words that >had meaning, but words I had come to seek a meaning for. So then the >fear intensified, but just as I was about to freak out and let go of it >(in defeat), I noticed that I could see it as being "justt fear", like >an old friend. Then I could let go of it in gratitude and joy. That >was wonderful and funny, and cosmic. I did it over and over again, >seeing central issues as just fear. It was very freeing. I'm not done >yet (I think). It's a new tool in my bag o' tricks. > Now *that* is another gift from you! Thank you!! Next time I'm facing something that big, I'll try this method. >I hope that answers the question. I never felt during this experience >truly in danger, but the change to seeing the fear as "just fear" was >recognition, and was accompanied by energy waves, and a numinous feeling >like I was learning a cosmic secret of great significance. (I like that >feeling.) Thanks for the sharing! I'm in the process of hunting down a Holotrpic workshop with a friend in England. Btw, I had a friend who woke up in the middle of the night with the *answer*. He scrabbled around until he had a pencil and a piece of paper, scribbled it down and went back to sleep. In the morning he woke and excitedly reached over to read the message from Beyond. It said: "A strong smell of turpentine"... How's you feeling post de-assignment? Love Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2000 Report Share Posted May 3, 2000 In a message dated 5/2/00 9:44:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Robert_Weil writes: << Thanks for the sharing! I'm in the process of hunting down a Holotrpic workshop with a friend in England. >> Hello Rob, Seeing this has prompted me to ask, do you have an active k process going on now? l was thinking you did, but l'm afraid l don't recall. l think holotropic breathwork would be very risky for many k active people -- l know it would be out of the question for me. Wanted to mention it just to be sure. Regards jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2000 Report Share Posted May 3, 2000 At 08:12 03/05/00 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 5/2/00 9:44:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >Robert_Weil writes: > ><< > Thanks for the sharing! I'm in the process of hunting down a Holotrpic > workshop with a friend in England. > >> > > Hello Rob, > Seeing this has prompted me to ask, do you have an active k process >going on now? l was thinking you did, but l'm afraid l don't recall. l think >holotropic breathwork would be very risky for many k active people -- l know >it would be out of the question for me. Wanted to mention it just to be sure. Well, jerry, As I see it, K is another label for Ourselves in action. It feels strange and powerful, but it's not really "other" than us, imo. I know I will perhaps cause some rolled eyes, but I have experienced K rising, quite strongly, and I found the way to remain centred was to accept it as a part of my being. I do hear your caution, jerry, I'm not being arrogant here. I understand the tremendous difficulties that ppl have experienced through K. But I look at my life, and I see a path of being strongly reminded of the power of faith. I will stay tuned to my needs. It appears that I do have some active K happening. I am trusting that my self knows what it needs. If the HB is too intense, I'll step back and release into nature or whatever. I have been on intense rollercoaster rides with strong LSD, and I recognise prana, K and divine illumination. I have survived. I shall have to suck it and see... I want to clear some old stuff and my determination has a reason that seems to be about getting ready for some manifested activity. I don't know more than that. Feels like I need to prepare. Who knows? By the time we've checked out the group, I/things might have already moved on! <LOL> I can't take my fears too seriously, and I need to remember my trust and faith anyway. Thanks so much for warning me, both you and Colette. I shall investigate the system and feel my way. > btw, how are you? How's the old energy weather treating you? Love Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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