Emulation of Death and "Psychology of awakening"

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Antoine wrote:

> > there the vital forces concentrate little by little in

> > the region of the eight-petalled lotus, which is the crown

centre. To

> > the extent that this concentration in the crown region of the

head takes place, vital activity diminishes-ate first the lower region

> > of the organism (...). At the moment when the concentration of

vitality

> > in complete, the heart and also the circulatory system cease their

> > activity-this is the moment of death.

>

> > (...) Once the energy is concentrated in the crown region the

body is

> > reduced to a state of stupor, and the consciousness of the self

departs

> > and is united with the consciousness of the transcendent Self -

which is

> > the stare of _samadhi_ or ecstasy. _Samadhi_ or yogic ecstasy is a

> > temporary or artificial death."

 

Hello,

 

This is one type of samadhi.

There are also open eyed samadhis when

the physical body may be "awake" and "active", i.e. moving about

in the physical world.

 

The process of withdrawing the life energy up to the

upper regions of the body can induce a stupor like state that

mimics death of the physical body. Tibetan meditators have been able

to experience this and thus explore the death processes of the mind.

Basis consciousness remains however, what is registered are

experiences.

Those who are given the opportunity to explore these kinds of

experiences are called "delog"s (plural).

Personally, I find it all quite fascinating.

 

, Colette <colette@b...> wrote:

> I am also saying that this impersonal Being may come back into

personal manifestation using the former personality. Then this Being

>gets the fun of experience again through cleaning up the subtler

issues still left for playing in (maybe as alternation of pain &

>pleasure).

 

At first, you used the word "Realization", now you talk about

some "impersonal being" getting its "personality" back.

 

However,

I'm not going to mess about with "impersonality" and "personality",

but rather leave you to it.

 

Greg has already put into words most of my thoughts about this

particular issue. I shall only add:

If Realization is defined as Realization of the Self, not much more

will remain, per definition, after Realization has come about

and the knowledge of this, will be solid.

 

Also, as I see it, the "Gift" was really never lost in the first

place and hence there is absolutely no danger in not "accepting it".

>Will we allow

>ourselves the Gift, or keep overidentifying with the available

>personality which says we are abandoned & separate?

 

Yes, that is a question.

 

Love,

 

Amanda.