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umbada wrote:

> I to the methods given by Ramana and

> Nisargadatta. However, because they discovered them and had

> bestowed upon them the Grace which would allow them to

> teach the methods to the world, and to teach them simply by

> their presence, doesn't mean they hold an exclusive primary

> knowledge of those methods, leaving others to hold a

> secondary knowledge.

>

> Very many can go back to childhood and recall a time when

> they asked a question similar to 'Who am I?'. That too is a

> Grace bestowed upon an individual. It may not lead to a

> flowering on the order of Ramana, or a facility with words

> on the order of Nisargadatta, but it can be valued,

> contemplated, meditated upon, and one can in time determine

> that it is a teaching or method on the order of what Sages

> teach.

>

> It doesn't automatically mean that a person who discovers

> the inquiry independently is as spiritually developed, as

> smart, wise, charismatic, intelligent, insightful, useful,

> powerful, beautiful, graceful, impactful as a Sage.

>

> It only means they independently discovered the key to the

> Self. That independent discovery is going to be as powerful

> than anything a Sage says or is, because it is a direct

> teaching. It's direct knowledge. It is the Sage.

>

> I have experienced that is was Rajneesh (Osho) and Adi Da

> (Da Free John) who cleared the garbage away so that I could

> seriously re-visit my childhood experiences in which

> inquiry was discovered and mantras were given. Those men

> were the garbage men. Ramana and Nisargadatta were already

> at my heart. They were what I already was. Rajneesh and Adi

> Da showed me that. In current days, as a more refined

> 'garbage' constantly imposes itself, I have found that the

> people on the lists have replaced Rajneesh and Adi Da. Gene

> Poole has made a great effort, publicly and privately, in

> that regard.

>

> grateful to everyone and everything,

>

> Jerry

>

> --

 

Hello Jerry and everyone. Just came back into town and will try to catch up

with some of the e-mail tomorrow. Enjoyed reading your thoughts Jerry as always.

I remember Jerry writing sometime ago that when he was young he thought

something like, "no matter what the sages say, I am still me or still will be me

........" Dan has said something to the effect that, "Hold no head above your

own." Profound understanding, it seems to me.

 

Once when I was 13 or so and sitting in the verandah quietly, I had a clear

sense of the past. Then a strong stream of thoughts arose again and again and I

thought it was my obligation to state clearly that if one ever has to choose

between a guru (spiritual teacher) and the truth, one should always choose what

one feels deeply as the truth, regardless of who the teacher is. I remember the

arising of those thoughts spontaneously and with an amazing force to indicate

clearly that a genuine teacher is not separate from the truth and can therefore

can impart such a teaching. So when

Dan says, "Hold no head above your own", it makes perfect sense.

 

Love to all

Harsha

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Harsha wrote:

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I remember the arising of

those thoughts spontaneously and with an amazing force to indicate

clearly that a genuine teacher is not separate from the truth and can

therefore can impart such a teaching. So when

Dan says, "Hold no head above your own", it makes perfect sense.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

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Dear Harsha, so glad to hear your voice once again! You are making

my heart sing!

 

A while ago I was studying chi gong. The teacher is/was a fellow

from China who studied Tibetan sorcery.

 

One day at a workshop he gave he started talking about 'visualising'

your teacher above your head. I had brought, as a small gift for him,

a yellow rubber 'shiva' with a happy face head. While he was being

so serious and talking about this visualization, I picked up the

'shiva' and held it above my head! Cracked everyone up!

 

No, my friend, there is no one to hold above or to worship. We are

each and everyone of us the sum of the whole of the universe. This

is the unmitigated truth. Ah yes! In all things high and all things

low, we are the Gusto of God!

 

HAHAHAH and HOHOHO!

 

Peace - See You Soon - Michael

 

Hey! That was pretty good. (the above) Gonna post it on nds.

Gusto of God! Phew!

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