[NondualitySalon] J Krishnamurti

[Guest guest]

Dear uarelove,

 

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uarelove (Self Inquiry)

 

I meant to say there does seem to be a confirmation

 

from the narrator and the monk that moksha has

 

occurred but not from J K in the last story.

 

--uarelove

>>

 

KKT: There is another anecdote

from the book "A Vision of the Sacred -

My Personal Journey with Krishnamurti"

by Sunanda Patwardhan, and I think

this is the story of the same Jain monk.

Hope that you enjoy the reading :-))

 

 

A strange, esoteric event took place once during Krishnaji's visit to

India . I am speaking now about a meeting between a Jain sadhu

(holy person) and Krishnaji, with Achyutji and I as silent and fascinated

witnesses. The sadhu told Krishnaji, "Sir, for fourteen years now, I

have devoted myself to meditation, yet I am not able to get into samadhi.

I have been practicing meditation, dhyana, but I have not been able to

go to the depths of it. Can I do this? Will you be able to tell me what

my impediments are ?"

 

Krishnaji asked him to describe the kinds of meditative practices he

had been following. After listening to him, he said, "Do you realize

that you are still acquiring? Open your fist. There is nothing to acquire".

 

For some minutes, the sadhu was silent. He then got up and prostrated

himself before Krishnaji, who then asked him to stay on for some more

time . After a while, the sadhu said, "Sir, I want to ask you one more

question. Is it the impact of your personality that has given me this

[experience]? Is this due to your gurukripa [grace of the guru]?"

 

Krishnaji replied, "I knew you would ask this question. That is why I

asked you to stay on for some more time . This is not something to

acquire but to give up. Release your fist. Leave everything." He

paused for a moment and said, "Is it the [new] mind that is asking

that question? Or is it the mind before you experienced 'this' that is

full of questions? You have been caught up in it again. I took you out

of it, but you have gone back to it. If you stand firmly on that and let

go everything, 'it' will come . 'It' will come, not because you want it,

but 'it' will come . Have you understood what I am asking?"

 

The sadhu prostrated himself again before Krishnaji, sat down and

said, "I don't need to go anywhere else". Krishnaji then said to him,

"The 'other' is out of time, and we live in time . And we want to bring

timeless into time . I have told you all this, but it is not mine".

 

Unknowable are the nonverbal experiences and mysterious are the

ways by which a teacher communicates them. What I understood

from this conversation is that transformations in oneself could take

place in the presence of an enlightened person if one was open and

vulnerable to the teaching.

 

 

Peace,

 

KKT

[Guest guest]

Dear Greg-ji,

 

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goode (Gregory Goode)

 

Hi KKT,

 

Nice to hear from you, glad you're here. Great, informative stories!

Youarelove, too, and so is uarlove.

 

--Greg

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KKT: I am glad you have enjoyed them :-))

 

Peace,

 

KKT

[Guest guest]

Hi KKT,

 

Nice to hear from you, glad you're here. Great, informative stories!

Youarelove, too, and so is uarlove.

 

--Greg

 

At 12:57 PM 7/12/00 EDT, phamdluan wrote:

>Dear uarelove,

>

> <<

> uarelove (Self Inquiry)

>

> I meant to say there does seem to be a confirmation

>

> from the narrator and the monk that moksha has

>

> occurred but not from J K in the last story.

>

> --uarelove

>

> >>

>

>KKT: There is another anecdote

>from the book "A Vision of the Sacred -

>My Personal Journey with Krishnamurti"

>by Sunanda Patwardhan, and I think

>this is the story of the same Jain monk.

>Hope that you enjoy the reading :-))

 

.....