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What are the differences between Advaita Vedanta and

Dzogchen?

 

In my humble opinion, I beleive that the below listed quote

would be agreed upon by either tradition.

 

I seem to recall that Shri Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta

Maharaj, and Ramesh S. Balsekar seem to suggest that

realization comes only through grace and that there is

nothing that the individual can do to obtain realization.

 

I seem to recall that in the Dzogchen tradition one receives

practices which one can accomplish to abide in the natural

condition and eventually by so doing obtain realization.

 

Advaita Vedanta says there aint no method and Dzogchen says

there are methods, however, the realization is identical.

Is this indeed the main difference?

 

Just wondering.

 

Victor

 

Got to laugh that I'm talking to myself here. Ha.

 

Quoting Victor Torrico <vtorrico:

> "The desire for happiness is the disease of

> attachment; one can be happy only when free of

> desires. Realization is not achieved by striving for

> it; it arises spontaneously when one abides in the

> natural state without seeking anything." p.153

>

> The Supreme Source

> Choegyal Namkhai Norbu, Adriano Clemente

> Translated from Italian into English by A. Lukianowicz

> Snow Lion Publications, 1999

>

> Victor

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