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Beautiful passage, Victor!

 

Indeed -

The senses *are* the sense objects.

The sense objects *are* the senses.

 

This is literal truth as well as

figurative, actual as well as

metaphorical. Just difficult

to see as it is, due to

conceptualization of one thing

apart from another.

 

And what then of the myriad "sentient beings"?

Where are they when sense object and sense

are each included in the "other"?

What else is any "sentient being" other

than the universe observing itself?

And what else is "the universe" other than

"myriads of sentient beings"?

 

And as there is, ultimately, neither

unity or multiplicity, how will

instruction in This occur?

 

-- Dan

 

At 09:11 AM 7/24/00 -0400, you wrote:

>"Listen, great being, king of pure presence! The true teaching of the

>absolute meaning cannot be comprehended or shown [through concepts]. It

>cannot be defined, it cannot become an object of fixation, it cannot be

>thought: it concerns a nature that transcends thought. [This nature]

>cannot be meditated upon and cannot be the object of thought. It does

>not know desire and does not conceive the idea of having to accept the

>fruit [of realization].

>

>Those who abide in this natural non-discursive state reach enlightenment

>without embarking on a path; without exercising the mind, they obtain

>self-arising wisdom; without striving, they spontaneously achieve the

>capacity for spiritual action; without keeping a commitment, they

>naturally maintain purity.

>

>[in this state] the senses and their objects manifest as the clarity of

>the fundamental condition, Buddhas and sentient beings are no longer

>seen as a duality, and everything is preserved as unity in the

>fundemental condition.

>

>The fundemental nature knows neither unity nor multiplicity: could the

>essence, which has never been born and has never manifested, ever become

>the object of definition?

>

>Listen, great being, king of pure presence! All the Buddhas and

>sentient beings, the whole universe and the forms of life inhabiting it,

>are my nature, beyond any concept of affirmation or negation.

>

>My nature is one in the fundemental condition, and that which is taught

>by the teachers of the three dimensions serves only to lead all beings,

>in an indirect manner, to this single reality."

>

>

>The Supreme Source

>Choegyal Namkhai Norbu, Adriano Clemente

>Translated from Italian into English by Andrew Lukianowicz

>Snow Lion Publications, 1999

>

>Victor

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At 10:12 AM 7/24/00 -0400, Dan Berkow wrote:

>And as there is, ultimately, neither

> unity or multiplicity, how will

> instruction in This occur?

 

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