Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 Beautiful passage, Victor! Indeed - The senses *are* the sense objects. The sense objects *are* the senses. This is literal truth as well as figurative, actual as well as metaphorical. Just difficult to see as it is, due to conceptualization of one thing apart from another. And what then of the myriad "sentient beings"? Where are they when sense object and sense are each included in the "other"? What else is any "sentient being" other than the universe observing itself? And what else is "the universe" other than "myriads of sentient beings"? And as there is, ultimately, neither unity or multiplicity, how will instruction in This occur? -- Dan At 09:11 AM 7/24/00 -0400, you wrote: >"Listen, great being, king of pure presence! The true teaching of the >absolute meaning cannot be comprehended or shown [through concepts]. It >cannot be defined, it cannot become an object of fixation, it cannot be >thought: it concerns a nature that transcends thought. [This nature] >cannot be meditated upon and cannot be the object of thought. It does >not know desire and does not conceive the idea of having to accept the >fruit [of realization]. > >Those who abide in this natural non-discursive state reach enlightenment >without embarking on a path; without exercising the mind, they obtain >self-arising wisdom; without striving, they spontaneously achieve the >capacity for spiritual action; without keeping a commitment, they >naturally maintain purity. > >[in this state] the senses and their objects manifest as the clarity of >the fundamental condition, Buddhas and sentient beings are no longer >seen as a duality, and everything is preserved as unity in the >fundemental condition. > >The fundemental nature knows neither unity nor multiplicity: could the >essence, which has never been born and has never manifested, ever become >the object of definition? > >Listen, great being, king of pure presence! All the Buddhas and >sentient beings, the whole universe and the forms of life inhabiting it, >are my nature, beyond any concept of affirmation or negation. > >My nature is one in the fundemental condition, and that which is taught >by the teachers of the three dimensions serves only to lead all beings, >in an indirect manner, to this single reality." > > >The Supreme Source >Choegyal Namkhai Norbu, Adriano Clemente >Translated from Italian into English by Andrew Lukianowicz >Snow Lion Publications, 1999 > >Victor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 At 10:12 AM 7/24/00 -0400, Dan Berkow wrote: >And as there is, ultimately, neither > unity or multiplicity, how will > instruction in This occur? Like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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