Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 - <sanjulag Friday, August 25, 2000 12:59 AM Mother Goddess as Kali - The Feminine Force in Art Hi, I put together the following piece, hope member friends enjoy it. ========================================================= Mother Goddess as Kali - The Feminine Force in Art ========================================================= The worship of a mother goddess as the source of life and fertility has prehistoric roots, but the transformation of that deity into a Great goddess of cosmic powers was achieved with the composition of the Devi Mahatmya (Glory of the goddess), a text of the fifth to sixth century, when worship of the female principle took on dramatic new dimensions. The goddess is not only the mysterious source of life, she is the very soil, all-creating and all consuming. -- Hello Nitin, Thank you for sharing this with us. It is well written and very clear to understand. I appreciate, as I am sure many others do as well, this recognition of the feminine as divine, and the significance of bringing this symbolism back to prominence in our consciousness. With love, Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 Hi Gloria, Glad you enjoyed the piece. Warmly, Nitin and Sanjula G. http://www.exoticindiaart.com --- Gloria Lee <glee wrote: > > - > <sanjulag > > Friday, August 25, 2000 12:59 AM > Mother Goddess as Kali - > The Feminine Force in Art > > > Hi, I put together the following piece, hope member > friends enjoy it. > > ========================================================= > Mother Goddess as Kali - The Feminine Force in Art > ========================================================= > > The worship of a mother goddess as the source of > life and fertility > has prehistoric roots, but the transformation of > that deity into a > Great goddess of cosmic powers was achieved with the > composition of > the Devi Mahatmya (Glory of the goddess), a text of > the fifth to > sixth century, when worship of the female principle > took on dramatic > new dimensions. The goddess is not only the > mysterious source of > life, she is the very soil, all-creating and all > consuming. > -- > Hello Nitin, > > Thank you for sharing this with us. It is well > written and very clear to understand. > I appreciate, as I am sure many others do as well, > this recognition of the feminine > as divine, and the significance of bringing this > symbolism back to prominence in our > consciousness. > > With love, > Gloria > > > > Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 , sanjulag wrote: > > A devotee poet says: > > "Is Kali, my Divine Mother, of a black complexion? > She appears black because She is viewed from a distance; > but when intimately known She is no longer so. > The sky appears blue at a distance, but look at it > close by and you will find that it has no colour. > The water of the ocean looks blue at a distance, > but when you go near and take it in your hand, > you find that it is colourless." > > …… Ramakrishna Paramhansa (1836-86) > > Kali's nudity has a similar meaning. In many instances she is > described as garbed in space or sky clad. In her absolute, primordial > nakedness she is free from all covering of illusion. She is Nature > (Prakriti in Sanskrit), stripped of 'clothes'. It symbolizes that she > is completely beyond name and form, completely beyond the illusory > effects of maya (false consciousness). Her nudity is said to > represent totally illumined consciousness, unaffected by maya. Kali > is the bright fire of truth, which cannot be hidden by the clothes of > ignorance. Such truth simply burns them away. Thanks Sanjulag. One thing has always puzzled me and maybe someone can help. Are there different forms of Goddesses? Some more frightening than others? Harsha's poem "Vision of the naked goddess" describes a form of the Goddess that is pleasing and benevolent and not like the usual descriptions of Kali. Which Goddess is that? Do different mystics see different goddesses and why should that be if all is one? What does anyone think? What do you say Harsha? I mean are we all artists imagining what ever we like and painting the world according to our needs? No offense intended. Your brother in deep thinking and heavy duty psychology TLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 , sanjulag wrote: > > A devotee poet says: > > "Is Kali, my Divine Mother, of a black complexion? > She appears black because She is viewed from a distance; > but when intimately known She is no longer so. > The sky appears blue at a distance, but look at it > close by and you will find that it has no colour. > The water of the ocean looks blue at a distance, > but when you go near and take it in your hand, > you find that it is colourless." > > .. Ramakrishna Paramhansa (1836-86) > > Kali's nudity has a similar meaning. In many instances she is > described as garbed in space or sky clad. In her absolute, primordial > nakedness she is free from all covering of illusion. She is Nature > (Prakriti in Sanskrit), stripped of 'clothes'. It symbolizes that she > is completely beyond name and form, completely beyond the illusory > effects of maya (false consciousness). Her nudity is said to > represent totally illumined consciousness, unaffected by maya. Kali > is the bright fire of truth, which cannot be hidden by the clothes of > ignorance. Such truth simply burns them away. Thanks Sanjulag. One thing has always puzzled me and maybe someone can help. Are there different forms of Goddesses? Some more frightening than others? Harsha's poem "Vision of the naked goddess" describes a form of the Goddess that is pleasing and benevolent and not like the usual descriptions of Kali. Which Goddess is that? Do different mystics see different goddesses and why should that be if all is one? What does anyone think? What do you say Harsha? I mean are we all artists imagining what ever we like and painting the world according to our needs? No offense intended. Your brother in deep thinking and heavy duty psychology TLP ------------------------------ Dear TLP, The short answer is yes, and the long answer could fill a book! Many, many images of the divine feminine are seen and exist in art. From a psychological viewpoint, they may be said to be projections of one's imagination, in fact the Tibetan Book of the Dead exhorts the dead soul to remember that all the visions he may be seeing in the Bardo realm are his own projections. Harsha is due back any day now, by the end of the month as I recall it. Many others here can give you a better explanation of the "all is one" idea, but as I understand it, this apparent diversity of the many IS the expression of the One. In any case, they are inseparable from one another. You are correct to notice there is often a discrepancy between "imagining the world as we like" and reality. It is often said as it was above of Kali, that truth is "beyond name and form" and ignorance is characterized as the veil hiding reality. This sure gives us a lot to talk about tho, doesn't it? Love, Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 Scuse me, resending since it hasn't shown up yet here. , sanjulag wrote: > > A devotee poet says: > > "Is Kali, my Divine Mother, of a black complexion? > She appears black because She is viewed from a distance; > but when intimately known She is no longer so. > The sky appears blue at a distance, but look at it > close by and you will find that it has no colour. > The water of the ocean looks blue at a distance, > but when you go near and take it in your hand, > you find that it is colourless." > > .. Ramakrishna Paramhansa (1836-86) > > Kali's nudity has a similar meaning. In many instances she is > described as garbed in space or sky clad. In her absolute, primordial > nakedness she is free from all covering of illusion. She is Nature > (Prakriti in Sanskrit), stripped of 'clothes'. It symbolizes that she > is completely beyond name and form, completely beyond the illusory > effects of maya (false consciousness). Her nudity is said to > represent totally illumined consciousness, unaffected by maya. Kali > is the bright fire of truth, which cannot be hidden by the clothes of > ignorance. Such truth simply burns them away. Thanks Sanjulag. One thing has always puzzled me and maybe someone can help. Are there different forms of Goddesses? Some more frightening than others? Harsha's poem "Vision of the naked goddess" describes a form of the Goddess that is pleasing and benevolent and not like the usual descriptions of Kali. Which Goddess is that? Do different mystics see different goddesses and why should that be if all is one? What does anyone think? What do you say Harsha? I mean are we all artists imagining what ever we like and painting the world according to our needs? No offense intended. Your brother in deep thinking and heavy duty psychology TLP ------------------------------ Dear TLP, The short answer is yes, and the long answer could fill a book! Many, many images of the divine feminine are seen and exist in art. From a psychological viewpoint, they may be said to be projections of one's imagination, in fact the Tibetan Book of the Dead exhorts the dead soul to remember that all the visions he may be seeing in the Bardo realm are his own projections. Harsha is due back any day now, by the end of the month as I recall it. Many others here can give you a better explanation of the "all is one" idea, but as I understand it, this apparent diversity of the many IS the expression of the One. In any case, they are inseparable from one another. You are correct to notice there is often a discrepancy between "imagining the world as we like" and reality. It is often said as it was above of Kali, that truth is "beyond name and form" and ignorance is characterized as the veil hiding reality. This sure gives us a lot to talk about tho, doesn't it? Love, Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 > Hi, I put together the following piece, > hope member friends enjoy it. > > ========================================================= > Mother Goddess as Kali - The Feminine Force in Art > ========================================================= ~ I am a new guest here, being a member of the Ramana and Papaji lineage. I very much enjoyed the clarity of the piece on Kali. Thank you for the energy you put into developing it, and for offering it here. Xan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Hi Xan, Glad you enjoyed it. Warmly, Nitin G. http://www.exoticindiaart.com --- Xan <xanma wrote: > > > Hi, I put together the following piece, > > hope member friends enjoy it. > > > > > ========================================================= > > Mother Goddess as Kali - The Feminine Force in Art > > > ========================================================= > > ~ I am a new guest here, being a member of the > Ramana > and Papaji lineage. I very much enjoyed the clarity > of the piece on Kali. Thank you for the energy you > put into developing it, and for offering it here. > > Xan > > > > > > > > Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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