Nonduality Salon

[Guest guest]

Friends,

I have been checking out some of the web sites that have been mentioned on

this list. I found the following (an excerpt below) at Nonduality Salon (a

great web site by the weay). I found it interesting because I have said to

some others that we don't remember how it was before we are born (well I

don't anyway) so why should we fear what is going to happen after we die.

But the excerpt seems to say it much better than I have, I love it. And if

it has been mentioned on this list before I got here, sorry for repeats.

Thank you so much everyone for your sharing, this list is a gift.

 

Barbara (Bruce to you Mark) in Florida

 

 

The Impossibility of All This

by Mark Otter and Manchine

 

 

I wasn't the least bit concerned about the period before my birth! Somewhere

along the line there, I came to be. Somewhere along the line it appears I

will cease to be. So I came to be, and that had to be explained. I don't know

why, that's the nature of THIS.

 

Now, there are probably as many explainations as to what is going to happen

after, as there is for what THIS is. Interesting!

 

Before I came to be, were there explainations as to what it would be like..

to be? Not that I'm aware of. It seems I wasn't aware of anything before I

came here. Was there something then before that? From here it seems so. The

Earth and mankind has been around for 10s of 1000's of years. Before I came

to be then, what portion of my time would that 10,000 years represent?

Somehow that doesn't compute! It's like "I" wasn't. Did "I" care?

 

What seems possible, is that there was being, but it just wan't recognizable.

It's not a physical state. There's a strong sense, and the scientists are

learning to prove it, that time only exists here. It seems that while we are

here we are living a possible explaination for what THIS is.

 

Light of somethingness, giving dimension to PURE BEING, which is what it has

always been.

 

PURE BEING, how could we know what it is without THIS?

 

Don't worry about what comes after, THIS is your explaination.

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara,

I like what Manchine (I call him Dave, but then you know about me and

people's names) has to say about birth and death too. He wrote all

of this that you quote, and what I have to say about the matter is easy

to remember. "I don't know". It's true. I don't.

I have had experiences when I felt absolutely certain that I was dead,

and I was rather surprised that it was so peaceful, but then I wondered

when "they" would come to get me, and then I realized I was still on Earth,

so I went home to sleep it off. I used to do drugs before I did Miracle

Whip.

Love, Mark

BHATPHOACC (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Friends,

I have been checking out some of the web sites that have been mentioned

on

this list. I found the following (an excerpt below) at Nonduality

Salon (a

great web site by the weay). I found it interesting because

I have said to

some others that we don't remember how it was before we are born

(well I

don't anyway) so why should we fear what is going to happen after

we die.

But the excerpt seems to say it much better than I have, I love

it. And if

it has been mentioned on this list before I got here, sorry for

repeats.

Thank you so much everyone for your sharing, this list is a gift.

Barbara (Bruce to you Mark) in Florida

The Impossibility of All This

by Mark Otter and Manchine

I wasn't the least bit concerned about the period before my birth!

Somewhere

along the line there, I came to be. Somewhere along the line it

appears I

will cease to be. So I came to be, and that had to be explained.

I don't know

why, that's the nature of THIS.

Now, there are probably as many explainations as to what is going

to happen

after, as there is for what THIS is. Interesting!

Before I came to be, were there explainations as to what it would

be like..

to be? Not that I'm aware of. It seems I wasn't aware of anything

before I

came here. Was there something then before that? From here it seems

so. The

Earth and mankind has been around for 10s of 1000's of years. Before

I came

to be then, what portion of my time would that 10,000 years represent?

Somehow that doesn't compute! It's like "I" wasn't. Did "I" care?

What seems possible, is that there was being, but it just wan't

recognizable.

It's not a physical state. There's a strong sense, and the scientists

are

learning to prove it, that time only exists here. It seems that

while we are

here we are living a possible explaination for what THIS is.

Light of somethingness, giving dimension to PURE BEING, which is

what it has

always been.

PURE BEING, how could we know what it is without THIS?

Don't worry about what comes after, THIS is your explaination.

//

All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness.

Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home

is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal

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