Guest guest Posted August 29, 2000 Report Share Posted August 29, 2000 , Antoine Carré <carrea@v...> wrote: > I have been enjoying reading this book "The Science of Enlightenment" by > Nitin Trasi that I know to be a member of the Advaita list and maybe this > one as well. > > Here is a quote from it. > > "The Paradox of Spiritual Effort > > Why is the `succes rate` of any and all of the spiritual techniques so > abysmally low in practice (in spite of claims of the contrary by their > respective adherents)? > ~~~May I enquire how the success rate is being measured by Mr. Tracy? > Most people presume that this is because the techniques themselves are too > difficult, or that the entire subject too abstruse, and quite beyond an > average person's abilities - both physical and intellectual. But this is > not so. The cause is much more basic, more fundamental than that. > > Actually it is not very surprising that Enlightenment should occur so > rarely. Enlightenment, it has already been explained, is the actual > percepttion or realisation (not belief or mere intellectual understanding) > that one is not separate entity. Therefore, the very persuit of this as a ~~~~~Persuit is not spelled correctly. > In fact, (though the average seeker may not see this), the very idea that a > 'method' or 'technique' is required for Enlightenment, reveals a deep > ignorance of what Enlightement is all about. Most people fail to realise > that Enlightenment is simply the _understanding_ of the situation, and not > a physical, mental or intellectual feat or achievement. ~~~~~This is the usual crap! What utter bullshit. Nothing original here. (And Liberation is > the automatic, natural result of Enlightenment.) And thus it is that the > seeker makes a very fundamental error right at the point where he begins > the search - he begins with the presumption that he his a separate entity - > and the battle is lost before it is even begun! ~~~~~Total and utter crapola!! The stench is soooooo bad! > > For as long as it is the entity which wishes to eliminate itself, it > cannot. And as long as there is any 'wishing' or any question of > 'achievement', the entity is involved, and there can be no 'success' in the > endeavour. By no amount of mental gymnastics or contortionism can the > entity acieve its own dissolution. ~~~~~~But is this reasoning any different than mental gymnastics? > > It is only when there is a totally different type of seing or perception, > when there is no 'wish' to change, when there remains no question of > 'achievement' or 'success', that it is seen very clearly that _there really > never was an entity ever_." ~~~~~~Crap, crap, and more crap! How do you guys put up with this mindlessly monolithic shit being paraded as the truth? ~~~~~I am eternally yours in Truth, Love, Peace and crap. Wake up and smell the crap. Then you might have a chance at Truth Love and Peace. TLP-C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2000 Report Share Posted August 30, 2000 On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:17:33 Mark Otter wrote: >How strange. The natives seem restless. note to Self: must have them >put down. Perhaps I can get Anna to yell at them. Yes, it must be the moon or something. >now stop responding to my drivel. Harsha is gonna be mad when he gets >back! You know how fierce he can be! Well, he doesn't need to be fierce b/c he has two moderators that have an abnormally high midi cloridian count and that tends to make ppl walking flame throwers. So this'll be a tad less subtle than what he says: No one needs to feel pressed out of the list, politically incorrect or otherwise. On the whole, many ppl would tend to view non duality as politically incorrect. Antoine writes so clearly everyone can understand what he says no matter a few spelling mistakes. Love, Amanda (can flame in 5 languages) Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2000 Report Share Posted August 30, 2000 Hi mumble cat, What's a high midi chloridian count, and how do I go about getting one? Being a human flame thrower sounds like fun! (I enjoy Kripalu whenever I can...) (go ahead and ask if you don't know what I am babbling about. It's a cute story. (I think).) Ask Mary Bianco. She may have a different slant from mine, seeing as how I enjoy Kripalu so much in her presence. (Her divine presence that is) Love, Mark mumble cat wrote: > > > > On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:17:33 Mark Otter wrote: > > >How strange. The natives seem restless. note to Self: must have > them > >put down. Perhaps I can get Anna to yell at them. > > Yes, it must be the moon or something. > > >now stop responding to my drivel. Harsha is gonna be mad when he > gets > >back! You know how fierce he can be! > > Well, he doesn't need to be fierce b/c he has two moderators that have > an abnormally high midi cloridian count and that tends to make ppl > walking flame throwers. So this'll be a tad less subtle than what he > says: > > No one needs to feel pressed out of the list, politically incorrect > or otherwise. > On the whole, many ppl would tend to view non duality as politically > incorrect. > > Antoine writes so clearly everyone can understand what he says no > matter a few spelling mistakes. > > > Love, > > Amanda (can flame in 5 languages) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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