Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Let me welcome the highly distinguished Wim and other new members who have recently joined a. And thank you Linda for your insightful comments on Chakras. Although, there are said to be 7 main chakras, different traditions assign different numbers to them. As Wim hints, one can conceptualize a great number of Chakras. Wherever awareness is focused, that becomes active with Shakti. Awareness and manifestations of Shakti are inseparable from each other, as Shakti is the energy of consciousness. To answer your question Wim. There are said to be three hearts. One is the physical organ on the left. One is the psychic heart center of Kundalini Yoga, which is meditated and felt in the center of the chest. When Shakti rises from the psychic heart center, it can give rise to visions of angels, and appearances of deities and the Goddesses who give their blessings. The third is the Spiritual Heart, which for a yogi is felt and experienced after the Kundalini Shakti has reached Sahasarara and has gone beyond it. Here, everything disappears as the Shakti merges in the Self. Nothing can be said of That but the mind approximates it by calling it Sat-Chit-Ananda. Ramana Maharshi was the first modern sage to point out this subtle process and how it ends. Some conversations harmonizing Kundalini Yoga with Jnana can be found in "The Talks" of the Sage of Arunachala. "Be As You Are" - - A nice compilation of conversations with Ramana by David Godman is an excellent source of information. Love to all and welcome and thanks for some wonderful posts. Harsha Wim Borsboom [aurasphere] Sunday, September 03, 2000 3:21 AM Kundalini-Gateway ; Re: [K-list] Chakras etc. Dear Harsha: You wrote: > The number of petals assigned to a chakra indicates the number of psychic > nerves that intersect there. The connection of these "psychic" nerves to "physical" nerves has become very evident to me. > External methods of seeing the chakras involve breathing and retention > practices while stimulating the optical nerves and indirectly the nervous > system and the activities of brain and the heart. What do you mean by the "heart" here though, Harsha? The heart chakra or the physical blood pumping thing? I can vary heart beats easily and certain kinds of heart palpitations occur in certain Samadhi states. (Itzak (sp?) Bentov comes to mind.) > In certain Samadhis, due to the activity of the Shakti, the > optical nerves are spontaneously stimulated, and one sees one chakra after > another and the different petals associated with them. These are not > imagination in the usual sense but colorful, intense, and precise visionary > experiences appearing in the mind's eye. How true and so precise !!! I can observe chakras quite easily. In fact I have come to conclude that every nerve end is a tiny chakra as I see every nerve end clearly as a tiny 'whirlying thingy like opening" taking in or giving off energy. In addition to physical and astral travel (hehehe) I also travel inside the human body... the most interesting trip I sometimes take is down into the central spinal column, where five of the seven main chakras often stand out very clearly, the colours are somewhat different than Leadbeater's, he must have made depictions of a person whose chakras were not totally in balance. (Well, whose are eh?)In addition to the five (of seven) main chakras I also see many other vortices and eddies so to say, all part of additional smaller nerve plexes. I have been able to see and count the "petals" (more like colourful interference patterns) inside the central spinal canal. Visualize the central spinal canal as a tube containing cerebro-spinal fluid (CFS). Imagine this liquid to be the most clear and crystalline viscous fluid. Imagine spectral light shining up from the bottom and spectral light shining down into this viscous tube from the top. The way these two spectral flows colourfully and vibrationally interfere with each other produces the chakric characteristics in colours or sounds or other vibrationary patterns (fragrances even).The brow and crown chakras are different in nature as they do not emanate from the spine proper but have more to do with the ventricles (the CFS filled cavities inside the brain), the bit of CFS like gel inside the pineal gland and the CFS substance inside the meninges that surround our brain mass. The crown chakra indeed has 960 reverberations sometimes seen as flower petals, sometimes as gyrations, sometimes as the thousand arms (rotating) that surround the Buddha, sometimes as peacock feathers with many coloured eyes, sometimes as a colourful umbra surrounding the whole human body but often more visible as an umbrella above or indeed underneath us. Oh, it is so wondrous... and the finest vibrations... You know we are wondrous beings... > Gopi Krishna claimed that chakras are pure > imagination and do not actually exist. > This is of course true of everything > in the ultimate sense. The ultimate sense is of course nonsense :-) Love, sensuously, senselessly and nonsensely, Wim /community/Kundalini-Gateway http://www.kundalini-gateway.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 heart... is also mind. --janpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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