Guest guest Posted September 7, 2000 Report Share Posted September 7, 2000 Thanks Michael (MHortling). I don't know if you are still on a. Will pass your message on Samadhi along to the list. In UK, it must be later afternoon now. So good afternoon Michael and have a nice dinner! Love Harsha MHortling [MHortling] Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:49 AM Kundalini-Gateway [K-list] Samadhi Hi Bob, Harsha, Horia, Wim, everybody ! My (certainly incomplete) experience of the samadhi-state is in many aspects similar to what has been shared here on the list and written about in the yogic and spiritual litterature. An inner expansion into vast, living silence in which first the outer reality recedes and then the inner universe of images and thoughts becomes transparent and then absolutely quiet. The image which has been used often in descriptions of the deeper state of consciousness is the one of the ocean in which waves and bubbles arise only to fall back again into the great vastness and I find this to be pretty descriptive. In the silence, thoughts and feelings are seen to be just like bubbles slowly coming out of the deep and then vanishing. The understanding is intuitively there, that all things in the outer world including one's own body, in fact every single component of reality, is also subject to the same process as the bubbles of thought - creation, being maintained for a set amount of time within the space/time/limited dimensional structure of the physical world, only to then be dissolved in order to start the whole thing again with new shapes and forms - and during all of this the "I" is just silently watching it all happen and knowing that all these creations and experiences arise within itself. The eternal dance of Shakti-energy doing the cosmic tango of creation on the completely still and immobile body of Shiva, which is God, which is the Silence, which is you & me. Using the traditional terminology in describing the process of going from outward reality into the inside (which paradoxically contains the outside), Pratyahara to me is the withdrawal of the consciousness from the sensory input, i.e closing the eyes, refusing to listen to outer sounds etc. Dharana then is the following stage in which the attention is led to focus inside, either on a mental image, a mantra or on one of the chakras etc. When this concentrated focussing becomes so steady that no other thoughts intrude and the mind is totally absorbed by its object of attention, the consciousness is in Dhyana or "meditation" mode I guess Patanjali must have meant something like this At this point, due to the intense pull of the concentrated mind, the kundalini-shakti starts to move from the bottom of the spine and begins to expand the chakras along the spine. If the attention is still maintained and the mind doesn't start jumping about, the inner universe, which first was rather amorphous and filled with thoughts, then became still and filled only with the object of meditation, now becomes that vast quiet ocean, just like the infinite night sky. This can be accompanied by a feeling of "Of course, this is me, I'm everything, everything is in myself! " Pretty interesting stuff... I feel the normal state of consciousnes to be a somehow "compressed" and much more limited state of being and myself, in which the silence and absolute balance of the larger Self somehow manages to get lost in the clutter of mental movies, desires and physical action. Something remains though, and I hope maybe I'll also one day be able to switch smoothly from one mode to the other. Now if in the meantime I could only make my chakras work normally, I'd be really happy ) Good night all (Probably more like "good afternoon" for those of you in the US...) Miguel Mouse (a.k.a Michael) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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