Kundalini Triggers

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Hi Bob,

 

Passing your post along. Very interesting thoughts on Kundalini and Trauma.

Richness of your experience is appreciated. Yours too Wim! :-).

 

Love you all

Harsha

 

 

Bob Vincent [bobVincent]

Thursday, September 07, 2000 7:35 AM

Kundalini-Gateway

[K-list] Re: Triggers

Kundalini-Gateway , druout@a... wrote:

 

Hi Hillary,

 

Glad I could throw a few ideas into the pot. Of course, as Harsha

says, what I've listed is very "traditional" yoga stuff. I've spent

most of my adult life working on getting up close and personal with

the abstractions of both traditional and esoteric yoga, finding that

it isn't abstract at all once it becomes home. The part that never

ceases to amaze me is the automatic interconnections, revealing an

underlying intelligence inherent in the whole process, inherent in

us. Just another way of recognizing that we are God incarnate longing

to happen, as it were.

 

Btw, perhaps you have heard the phrase, "Humankind is God playing the

fool." He/She will figure it out eventually, I'm sure. :-)

 

Regarding your comment about "trauma" not being in the 8 limbs of

yoga, yes, that is interesting, isn't it? In fact you could say that

outside influences in general are not very evident in the 8 limbs.

Shakipat and other karma-related enlightenment events are not

directly evident either. A couple of the "observances" might be

construed to relate to or even directly cause outside

influences. "These are Intensity for enlightenment (Tapas)"

and "Surrender to ultimate truth (Ishvara Pranidhana)." But this is

stretching it.

 

There is the tendency that yogis develop to expose themselves to

tramautic situations, such as sitting meditating in funeral grounds

in the middle of the night (now there's a trigger for you!), taking

great physical risks, and so on. Extreme ascetic practices like that.

So, there is that connection between yoga and trauma, but is it

voluntary? Or is it yet another automatic yogic connection? I think

it gets back to your question about mudras being voluntary or

automatic. What must happen will happen.

 

Perhaps what this line of thinking suggests is that the 8 limbs, and

perhaps all of yoga are a "self help" program of spiritual practices,

and outside events related to leaps in spiritual progress are but

karmic consequences ("automatic connections") of such spiritual

practice, even if these events come in later lifetimes when the

original practices which caused them have been forgotten. This is the

typical explanation for spontaneous kundalini awakenings. "You earned

it in a past life by doing spiritual work then." Small consolation

for the person burning up and not knowing why, huh?

 

When I first came back into cyber satsang a few weeks ago, I

communicated with a lady at the Kundalini Resource Center who had

been dealing with a very unruly K for about 5 years. It started for

her with a near death experience. She had no experience (in this

life) with any sort of spiritual practice, nor did she have any

conscious inclination toward such things. But there she was, deep

into it. Her near death experience was a profound spiritual event

involving proddings from higher beings to come back to earth, etc. I

am sure there are similar stories around here. What earns people

such "blessings"? Many lifetimes of purification I suspect. But who

knows? It depends on what people choose to believe about such things,

since there is no objective explanation in many cases. Only logical

deduction, for those who think they have logic on their side. Ha!

 

So, given all that, how does one initiate the triggers which

seemingly come from outside? By doing the work, I think. By

saying, "yes" to the spiritual opportunities which confront us each

day. Perhaps you should consider dividing the triggers into two

groups: Those which we can choose (practices), and those which happen

to us seemingly from outside. I have a sneaking suspicion that if you

make that distinction, the ones which we choose will end up being the

8 limbs plus additional schools of yoga. The triggers we do not seem

to choose will come under the broad heading of "unpredictable karmic

consequences," or something like that.

 

One type of trigger we can choose, the other we must bear with a

smile. Such is the life of the aspirant. Who is the fool here

anyway? LOL

 

Blessings,

Bob

[Guest guest]

, "Harsha" <harsha-hkl@h...> wrote:

> Hi Bob,

>

> Passing your post along. Very interesting thoughts on

Kundalini and Trauma.

> Richness of your experience is appreciated. Yours too Wim! :-).

>

> Love you all

> Harsha

>

 

Thank you Harsha,

 

I've been lurking over here for about a week, and like what I see.

Many moons ago I used to think jnana was my main approach (absolutely

love Ramana Maharishi and anything nondual), but came to realize that

a multipronged approach was what was needed to cut through my

mountains of ignorance. Hence the 8 limbs of yoga +++.

 

While we love to think in terms of the ultimate destination, all we

really have is our journey for today, whatever that may be. It may be

as basic as getting up in the morning. Carry water, chop wood... :-)

 

Hey, come to think of it, that is the ultimate destination, isn't it?

 

Peace,

Bob