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In a message dated 9/8/00 8:17:35 PM, horia writes:

 

<< Well, I hope I wasn't way too enthusiastic about it :)

I am offering to provide materials for you if you want to publish about

resonance.

 

Love

Horia. >>

 

That's exceptionally interesting, Horia, have you seen the articles about the

distances between the planets and the amino acid structures (alanine,

guanine, etc.) being exactly proportional ? I will try and find the article,

I saw it last year at a friend's, the distances of the planets have been put

to music - Music of the Spheres - the proportion fits the ancient hermetic

principles, it is 10 to the x out from man, 10 to the -x into man, man being

equidistant.

 

There's additional material, much more theoretical, although Caroline Myss

does work with a physician, on the relationship of the energies between the

chakras, the planets and the Kabbalah. Her work speaks more to the movement

of energy, which when not clear becomes dis-ease, manifesting through our

chakras, she describes how the energy moves through the planes spiritual >

mental > emotional > physical.

 

She's a medical intuitive, works with Dr. Norman Shealy, an M.D. ... she

wrote the books _Anatomy_of_the_Spirit_ and _Why Some People Don't Heal and

How They Can_. She used to give readings, but was so accurate, she was

overwhelmed by the demand for her readings, so, she states Spirit directed

her to teach others how to use their intuition and she now gives workshops to

this end. One of the first readings she spontaneously gave was for a young

man diagnosed hiv+ who is apparently now still alive and without any

symptoms. But, she does say that it is difficult to make the changes our

Spirit requests from us.

 

Anyway, thank you for your email, wanted to offer you something back in

exchange for your writing, am looking forward to reading more.

 

Love and Light,

bo

 

P.S. She does have a site on the net, www.myss.com; her interspiritual,

interdisciplinary approach is brilliant.

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In a message dated 9/9/00 5:00:47 PM, horia writes:

 

<< So if you have materials related to resonance please send them to me so

that

I can integrate them along the other information I have on this field. I

will be very grateful to you. :)

 

Love

Horia >>

 

Dear Horia,

 

If I can find them I will surely send them, thank you so much for your

thoughtful and loving post. I will look for them when I get out to the

country for a hike next week.

 

Love,

Annette

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Hello Bo,

 

What you tell me is very interesting because the use of related information

to document the law of resonance is quite necessary.

 

The spiritual aspects of the notion of resonance were known for some time

but (I am almost sure that) my master, Grieg, was the first yogi to put it

in the center of the other spiritual notions. He emphasized it to a degree

and with a depth that almost have no equal in other schools (or I may be

mistaken, correct me if you know I am wrong). Anyway, the law of resonance

could give a powerful insight in yoga and in spirituality in general.

 

So if you have materials related to resonance please send them to me so that

I can integrate them along the other information I have on this field. I

will be very grateful to you. :)

 

Love

Horia

 

 

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<Rainbolily

 

Saturday, September 09, 2000 3:33 PM

Re: Resonance

 

>

>

> In a message dated 9/8/00 8:17:35 PM, horia writes:

>

> << Well, I hope I wasn't way too enthusiastic about it :)

> I am offering to provide materials for you if you want to publish about

> resonance.

>

> Love

> Horia. >>

>

> That's exceptionally interesting, Horia, have you seen the articles about

the

> distances between the planets and the amino acid structures (alanine,

> guanine, etc.) being exactly proportional ? I will try and find the

article,

> I saw it last year at a friend's, the distances of the planets have been

put

> to music - Music of the Spheres - the proportion fits the ancient hermetic

> principles, it is 10 to the x out from man, 10 to the -x into man, man

being

> equidistant.

>

> There's additional material, much more theoretical, although Caroline Myss

> does work with a physician, on the relationship of the energies between

the

> chakras, the planets and the Kabbalah. Her work speaks more to the

movement

> of energy, which when not clear becomes dis-ease, manifesting through our

> chakras, she describes how the energy moves through the planes spiritual >

> mental > emotional > physical.

>

> She's a medical intuitive, works with Dr. Norman Shealy, an M.D. ... she

> wrote the books _Anatomy_of_the_Spirit_ and _Why Some People Don't Heal

and

> How They Can_. She used to give readings, but was so accurate, she was

> overwhelmed by the demand for her readings, so, she states Spirit directed

> her to teach others how to use their intuition and she now gives workshops

to

> this end. One of the first readings she spontaneously gave was for a

young

> man diagnosed hiv+ who is apparently now still alive and without any

> symptoms. But, she does say that it is difficult to make the changes our

> Spirit requests from us.

>

> Anyway, thank you for your email, wanted to offer you something back in

> exchange for your writing, am looking forward to reading more.

>

> Love and Light,

> bo

>

> P.S. She does have a site on the net, www.myss.com; her interspiritual,

> interdisciplinary approach is brilliant.

>

> //

>

> All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness.

Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is

where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal

Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously

arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

>

> To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at

> www., and select the User Center link from

the menu bar

> on the left. This menu will also let you change your

subscription

> between digest and normal mode.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 Rainbolily wrote:

> She's a medical intuitive, works with Dr. Norman Shealy, an M.D. ... she

> wrote the books _Anatomy_of_the_Spirit_ and _Why Some People Don't Heal and

> How They Can_. She used to give readings, but was so accurate, she was

> overwhelmed by the demand for her readings, so, she states Spirit directed

> her to teach others how to use their intuition and she now gives workshops to

> this end. One of the first readings she spontaneously gave was for a young

> man diagnosed hiv+ who is apparently now still alive and without any

> symptoms. But, she does say that it is difficult to make the changes our

> Spirit requests from us.

 

interesting, i remember running into someone who tried to convince me that

i could/should heal others. i still don't get what he meant.

 

i do believe that mind influences body. what i'm not so sure on is how.

lots of theories, stories, etc. But if you look at like the Tibetan idea

of the chakras, its different from the one i learned first. the colors are

different & everything. Yet both work. Both are good systems.

 

resonance sounds cool. it sounds complicated in a way, but chakra systems

can be too.

 

i think we go with what works....

 

maitri.,

 

--jt

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> resonance sounds cool. it sounds complicated in a way, but chakra systems

> can be too.

 

Hello Maitri,

 

I think that resonance is a simple straightforward concept.

However, knowing especially in practice almost all the implications of this

concept could take many years or even a whole life.

There are layers and layers of knowledge going deep inside the most elevated

spiritual practices.

Heh... My guru said once "Not even a liberated person escapes the law of

resonance." ;)

 

What I do right now with my Kundalini, my main practice, is learning about

the seven chakras and especially about the heart chakra and the crown

chakra. They are open and I work with them in my daily spiritual exercises,

I operate with their energies, with my attention, with my state of

consciousness. All these practices are focused mainly on understanding one

by one all the seven sub-planes of the crown chakra.

 

Normally I have the first plane (known as Muladhara in Sahasrara) active all

the time while I am awake. This gives me a sensation of energy and light

radiating from my crown chakra. When I activate the second plane of the

crown chakra (Swadhistana in Sahasrara) I feel that I transcend my physical

body - all the sensation are dimmed and the attention shifts to the pranic

body which is radiating and pulsating with subtle energies. It is beautiful.

I cannot tell you much about Manipura in Sahasrara but I can work better

with the fourth sub plane of the crown : Anahata in Sahasrara. Now, this one

is special. It is all about space and infinity. When this sub plane of my

crown chakra is activated by Kundalini I feel that I belong to no particular

place in the universe, I am everywhere. My physical body is almost

inexistent in this phase. I can't tell much about the rest of three sub

planes because I am still working them out.

 

It takes me months and even years for each sub plane. In order to activate a

sub plane of Sahasrara I first have to move the static point of Kundalini in

the correspondent chakra : for example I must raise K. up to Anahata, the

heart chakra; from Anahata Kundalini jumps in one single leap in Sahasrara

and activates Anahata in Sahasrara. That's how I get the sensations about

infinite size and being identical to the space.

 

All these exercises will gradually activate Sahasrara in Sahasrara which is

a nondual transcendent state, beyond the three universes and the five bodies

or koshas. That will bring me very close to liberation, until then I am just

working out the other sub planes. Anyway, it is a very beautiful work and I

do it with pleasure and with no effort at all. All the effort is supported

by Kundalini, not by me. I only enjoy. These aspects of the chakras are part

of the information I want to present related to resonance because you can

see that all I do is create specific resonance phenomenons in my seven

chakras.

 

Love,

~~~

Horia

 

 

-

Debora A. Orf <dorf01

 

Sunday, September 10, 2000 6:29 AM

Re: Resonance

 

>

> On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 Rainbolily wrote:

>

> > She's a medical intuitive, works with Dr. Norman Shealy, an M.D. ...

she

> > wrote the books _Anatomy_of_the_Spirit_ and _Why Some People Don't Heal

and

> > How They Can_. She used to give readings, but was so accurate, she was

> > overwhelmed by the demand for her readings, so, she states Spirit

directed

> > her to teach others how to use their intuition and she now gives

workshops to

> > this end. One of the first readings she spontaneously gave was for a

young

> > man diagnosed hiv+ who is apparently now still alive and without any

> > symptoms. But, she does say that it is difficult to make the changes

our

> > Spirit requests from us.

>

> interesting, i remember running into someone who tried to convince me that

> i could/should heal others. i still don't get what he meant.

>

> i do believe that mind influences body. what i'm not so sure on is how.

> lots of theories, stories, etc. But if you look at like the Tibetan idea

> of the chakras, its different from the one i learned first. the colors are

> different & everything. Yet both work. Both are good systems.

>

> resonance sounds cool. it sounds complicated in a way, but chakra systems

> can be too.

>

> i think we go with what works....

>

> maitri.,

>

> --jt

>

>

> //

>

> All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness.

Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is

where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal

Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously

arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

>

> To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at

> www., and select the User Center link from

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> on the left. This menu will also let you change your

subscription

> between digest and normal mode.

>

>

>

>

>

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Morning All.

 

Maitri Janpa.

 

This material of Robert Adams answers sooo many questions...

it answers every question and discussion i've seen on this list,

plus some questions of my own i haven't seen,

thank you Jessica.

 

It is really worth everything to read each transcript.

 

It answers why not the intellectual path.. because it has the

same maya or leelaa as the material one... why not just live

in the spontaneity of bliss?

 

Love

~ bo

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Debora A. Orf <dorf01

> i think we go with what works....

>

> maitri.,

>

> --jt

 

Hello Jt,

 

Isn't that a very scientific approach?

 

Maybe there comes a time after where we goe with wath is more pleasant or

fun or beautifull.

 

Maybe everything works at some point.

 

Antoine

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On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Antoine Carré wrote:

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> Hello Jt,

>

> Isn't that a very scientific approach?

>

> Maybe there comes a time after where we goe with wath is more pleasant or

> fun or beautifull.

>

> Maybe everything works at some point.

 

hehehehe

 

perhaps i am your local cyber vulcan.....

 

--janpa tsomo

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On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Antoine Carré wrote:

> Isn't that a very scientific approach?

>

> Maybe there comes a time after where we goe with wath is more pleasant or

> fun or beautifull.

>

> Maybe everything works at some point.

 

pleasant is a transitory mindstate, like unpleasant.

 

fun is a form of pleasant. beautiful is too.

 

as much as it may sound strange, i would prefer if i did not look for

things that were pleasant and felt good. That is hardly the point of a

spiritual path, to wander here & there after what feels good, is

beautiful, etc. Such things to me, are the persuits of gods and royalty.

 

Dangerous. like honey-flavourd poisen.

 

Because it ends. pleasure ends, gives way to whatever comes next, pain or

pleasure. Therein is its danger. Its as bad as getting stuck on the

negative side, of aversion. Of avoiding this or that because it is not

beautiful, clean, pleasant.

 

There is a state of calm. Clarity. Not grasping at the pleasant and not

avoiding the unpleasant.

 

It allows one to stand firm, calm, able to be of help to others, not

perturbed by the dangerous delusions of grasping and aversion. Totally

involved, yet not moved by the situation from one's core. Crying when it

is time to cry, dancing when it is time to dance.

 

perhaps one would say that is beautiful, or even pleasant. I would say,

"it works".

 

maitri,

 

--janpa tsomo

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<Rainbolily

>

 

 

 

Thank you Bo. I'm at a loss for words, but my heart is full in reading your

messages about Robert. The last 5 years for this body/mind has been

especially intense; the "coming apart" of jessica, so to speak, but the gift

of the breaking down has been the "light " of Advaita through Robert. I

love him.

Join you in satsang.

 

In resonance,

~jessica

 

> Morning All.

>

> Maitri Janpa.

>

> This material of Robert Adams answers sooo many questions...

> it answers every question and discussion i've seen on this list,

> plus some questions of my own i haven't seen,

> thank you Jessica.

>

> It is really worth everything to read each transcript.

>

> It answers why not the intellectual path.. because it has the

> same maya or leelaa as the material one... why not just live

> in the spontaneity of bliss?

>

> Love

> ~ bo

>

>

> //

>

> All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness.

Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is

where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal

Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously

arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

>

> To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at

> www., and select the User Center link from

the menu bar

> on the left. This menu will also let you change your

subscription

> between digest and normal mode.

>

>

>

>

>

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Janpa,

 

The words are _beautiful_, they _work_.

 

_Love_ them,

 

Antoine

 

_

 

Debora A. Orf <dorf01

 

pleasant is a transitory mindstate, like unpleasant.

 

fun is a form of pleasant. beautiful is too.

 

as much as it may sound strange, i would prefer if i did not look for

things that were pleasant and felt good. That is hardly the point of a

spiritual path, to wander here & there after what feels good, is

beautiful, etc. Such things to me, are the persuits of gods and royalty.

 

Dangerous. like honey-flavourd poisen.

 

Because it ends. pleasure ends, gives way to whatever comes next, pain or

pleasure. Therein is its danger. Its as bad as getting stuck on the

negative side, of aversion. Of avoiding this or that because it is not

beautiful, clean, pleasant.

 

There is a state of calm. Clarity. Not grasping at the pleasant and not

avoiding the unpleasant.

 

It allows one to stand firm, calm, able to be of help to others, not

perturbed by the dangerous delusions of grasping and aversion. Totally

involved, yet not moved by the situation from one's core. Crying when it

is time to cry, dancing when it is time to dance.

 

perhaps one would say that is beautiful, or even pleasant. I would say,

"it works".

 

maitri,

 

--janpa tsomo

 

 

//

 

All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is

Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality

of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge,

spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to

a.

 

To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at

www., and select the User Center link from

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on the left. This menu will also let you change your

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