[Advaita-Ashram] Fixing

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Dear Victor,

 

You said:

 

<<If I cannot recognize truth how can I expect others to recognize

truth?

If I cannot simply be how can I expect others to simply be?

If I cannot be joy and happiness how can I expect others to be joy and

happiness?>>

 

(M) Why not leave the 'others' out of the thing for the moment. The

fact is you do not recognise truth, you cannot BE, you cannot be joy

and happiness. Does this mean you have nothing to share? Does this

mean that we cannot look at the possible reasons for our unhappiness,

untruthfulness and non-BEING together as friends? Why the despair?

The fact is we are together in this mess. So why not make ourselves

available for one another?

 

Surely, the very fact that we are not on the other shore, makes it so

positively positive for us to share the possible reasons for our

present dilemma. We do not recognise truth, but what I am sugggesting

is that we look together at our falseness. Unless of course we

naively believe that we will arrive on the other shore unmodified and

undone from our present state of non-being. And to look at our

falseness we must learn to recognise it. In this there is NO 'endless

speculation'. The truth of our falseness is our living reality.

There need to be no speculation about this. All it requires is the

will to find out about ourselves, the courage to face it, the desire

to be undone in the process and the ability to let go of what we find

to be blocks we put in the way of our clarity. None of this requires

speculation.

 

Speculation comes into the picture when we project images which do not

reflect ourselves as we are. Then these images become part of our

confusion which further block our clarity. This all we can point out

to one another. If we are interested. IF WE ARE INTERESTED. That is

the question only each one of us can answer for him/herself.

 

Interest is to start afresh. To adopt an open agenda where absolutely

NOTHING is taken for gospel. What we have is ourselves, and however

confused this state may be, it is ALL we have and ALL WE ARE at this

present moment. No speculation here. Simple facts. But facts may be

a result of confused thinking and feeling. So this is where we may

help one another correct our mutual confusion. IF WE ARE INTERESTED.

 

This Ashram is for ALL who are still INTERESTED and who have not

become paralized by their own certainty and need for certainty.

Certainty is the death of enquiry. And the death of enquiry is the

death of any possibility of ever transcending the falseness of our

present state.

 

Love,

 

MOLLER - List Owner: Advaita-Ashram

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Victor Torrico <vtorrico

Advaita-Ashram <Advaita-Ashram >;

ANetofJewels <ANetofJewels >;

NondualitySalon <NondualitySalon >

12 September 2000 01:18

[Advaita-Ashram] Fixing

 

 

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Dear Friends,

 

If I cannot save, fix or help myself how can I expect to save, fix or

help others?

 

If I cannot recognize truth how can I expect others to recognize

truth?

 

If I cannot simply be how can I expect others to simply be?

 

If I cannot be joy and happiness how can I expect others to be joy and

happiness?

 

If I cannot drop endless idle speculation how can I expect others to

drop endless idle speculation?

 

What to do or not do? What to do or not do?

 

May we all be in It As-It-Is and have the experience of It As-It-Is.

 

Peace, equanimity, joy and happiness,

 

Victor

 

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