Guest guest Posted September 23, 2000 Report Share Posted September 23, 2000 Thanks Linda and Michael for this interesting dialogue. You are very well versed in spirituality and I love your sense of humor Michael. :-). Love to all Harsha MHortling [MHortling] Saturday, September 23, 2000 1:33 PM Ego, kundalini & the Yeti Dear Linda ! I agree with your agreeing !) <IMHO there are simply many people still in a state of kundalini awakening and <who are still purifying or getting baked. Without the proper surrender or <discrimination I believe they imagine they have achieved 'it' and make their <belief known to others. Of course, that is also part of a process but all too often <people believe these claims.> I've been in that weird state in which I believed I had "achieved it" - first I ran around on a cloud, full of shakti, the world was excessively beautiful and my mind was going : "Wow, I can't believe it, first the Buddha, then Ramakrishna and now ME ...!! )) ROTFL !! It feels very strange when you then realise that you have bills to pay, the car just broke down, and you find yourself arguing with somebody about something trivial - after which you start craving a beer... - so much for enlightenement !!) The mind rapidly goes back into some of it's old grooves, the good thing however seems to be the certitude that the higher - or maybe "less restricted" is a better expression - state is there within at all times, even if it's veiled and sealed off temporarily. I'm actually completely convinced of the fact that this whole enlightenment-business, the different samadhis and everything, rely on specific neural circuits in the brain for their manifeststation in this physical world - so, one needs to get a handle on the switch that flicks on the Brahmarandra (or gateway to God) within the brain to experience these things. Otherwise they remain just concepts or ideas. The kundalini-shakti seems to do just that by itself, surrender means letting it reach out and travel through the body so that it can press that button. So, it's really the kundalini that does and achieves, the ego with it's habits and quirks is just in the way. I think that it's probably helpful for people observing and interacting with those claiming to have "experiences" or some sort of spiritual achievement to know that, if the experience is real, if there's a leap in spiritual growth, it's all due to the working of kundalini (or God's energy, if you want) and not something the person can brag about as a personal achievement. In fact, in order for this to happen, the ego has had to die a little bit ) Of course people are gullible, it seems as if humans really want to believe all kinds of strange things - look at all the cults, Scientology, thousands of spaceships clogging up the skies, just waiting to come and save us from ourselves - all this kind of stuff. Hmmmh, I'm not at all saying that there are no spaceships up there, the point is to not naively believe it to be so, just because some more or less charismatic person says it's true Nah, I think being sceptical about anything extraordinary and miracolous until the extraordinary and miracolous comes looking for me and hits me on the head, is a good way to be - just have to take care to be open to all possibilities and remember that the whole universe takes place within the mind !) I saw an interesting program on tv recently about a researcher going up into the Hindukush-mountains in Northern Pakistan to verify claims of Yeti-sightings. He interviewed a number of high altitude shepherds who had either heard of the Yeti or claimed personal encounters with it (him ?). The shepherd that had his herd highest up on the mountain was an old guy that really couldn't understand what the fuss was all about - a man coming all the way from Europe just to interview him and everything. "It's just the Yeti after all" he said, "I've seen him loads of times when he comes here at night to raid my supplies ..." ) A nice illustration of how the miraculous becomes ordinary once it becomes an everyday fact of life. Well, come to think of it on the other hand, why should the Yeti be miraculous - just because none of us has seen him ? I advocate never to trust conventional truth - it's relative and doesn't account for limitless reality And, oh yeah a nice little quantum leap within consciousness is, when really everything reverts back to miraculous... 'Nuff rambled Take care, Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2000 Report Share Posted September 24, 2000 Yetis??? Lama RInchin told a Yeti story the last time he was here. if i can remember it, i'll retell it some fathomable method. not a good story teller am i. --janpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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