Guest guest Posted October 3, 2000 Report Posted October 3, 2000 Hi JB, Saw your message posted this am before any comments came in and felt moved to make a few comments from my heart but "time" did/does not permit ~ but just this... If anyone claims to be "teaching" Advaita, beware; run 100 miles in the opposite direction! Advaita is not a teaching, but an understanding that leads to a knowing that the seeker & the sought are ONE. Any of the "real dudes" as Sandeep would call them, did not go about "teaching" . Ramana Maharshi is attributed with being the "re-discoverer" (so to speak) of Advaita Vedanta. The highest teaching being Silence. Check out www.leelaa.net if you want an exposure to what Advaita Vedanta truly is about. Back to swirling in my vortex of packing! ~ : ) ~ ~ ~ Love to you, ~jessica - "J B" <JB789 <ANetofJewels > Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:15 AM [ANetofJewels] Questioning Advaita's "I am not the body/feeling/thought..I am That" > Hello > > I am not an expert in Advaita, though I have read some 'teachings' > and have seen a few teachers. > > I would like to mention a friend's many years interest in it. > He's studied it much. > He has been organizing satsangs with various teachers. > > I've seen him recently, at a satsang. I went out for a cup of tea and > he followed me, and came to my table. I could sense he needed to talk. > He also seemed to be somewhat different. His 'devotee' grin was not > there as ussual. However he had a sober presence about him. > > Essentially, he was saying that the 'I am not the > body/feelings/thought..I am That' has become a boring mantra for him. > He has seen that this 'formula' has created in him a subtle > distance /division between his I and the feelings/thought. And > therefore illusory peace and actual conflict. > > Now he saw that he IS feelings/thought. That there Is Nothing else. > He got interested in J. Krishnamurti's teaching, which, he felt, > starts with the non-ideational nakedness of the daily what-is-as-it- > is. He felt a great relief. > > I do not know whether his findings are actually in contradiction to > Advaita. Perhaps anyone of us could fiddle with his words in a > comparative philosophy-manner and prove that there is no > contradiction. > > However, it seems to me, that he does have a point. > That _Any_ statement done via-positiva, can affect/stimulate the > minds attitudes subtly and give it a fragmentary/exclusive direction. > (and my listening to dialogues with some Advaita teachers, it seems > to be so that, Questioning/Inquiring into its basic statements, are > not encouraged) > > So, perhaps a 'Not-knowing' moment by moment rooted in > honesty/sobriety, might be a very healthy base to inquiry. > (One is uncompromisingly/'ruthlessly' interested in Truth, and not in > aligning oneself to traditional truths, because they promise 'It'.) > This is what it seems to me anyhow, to be so. > > Comments/feedback welcome. > jb. > > > > ANetofJewels- > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2000 Report Posted October 3, 2000 Hi Jessica, Thanks for the "Seriousness is Pathological" Robert Adams and Joel Goldsmith site. Great fun, I love Joel Goldsmith. There is *another* branch of advaita that claims to be what "Advaita Vedanta truly is about," and at the same time it is quite serious about *teaching* it. They do not consider Robert Adams or Joel Goldsmith "advaitins," because these men were not in the guru-pampara dating back to Adi Shankaracharya. I know some followers of these schools who do not really recognize Ramana Maharshi (though most do!). This is the Hindu-based formal study of advaita, as in these organizations: The Chinmaya Mission http://www.chinmaya.org/html/vedanta.php3 Arsha Vidya Gurukulam http://www.arshavidya.org/ The Advaita Vedanta Home Page http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/ Namaste! --Greg At 10:07 AM 10/3/00 -0700, Jessica wrote: >>>> Hi JB, Saw your message posted this am before any comments came in and felt moved to make a few comments from my heart but "time" did/does not permit ~ but just this... If anyone claims to be "teaching" Advaita, beware; run 100 miles in the opposite direction! Advaita is not a teaching, but an understanding that leads to a knowing that the seeker & the sought are ONE. Any of the "real dudes" as Sandeep would call them, did not go about "teaching" . Ramana Maharshi is attributed with being the "re-discoverer" (so to speak) of Advaita Vedanta. The highest teaching being Silence. Check out www.leelaa.net if you want an exposure to what Advaita Vedanta truly is about. Back to swirling in my vortex of packing! ~ : ) ~ ~ ~ Love to you, ~jessica Quote
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2000 Report Posted October 3, 2000 Hello Amanda, Greg, Dan, Gloria, & JB - Thank you for your posts, & to All Vestiges of a "shame ego" arise as I am feeling "hungover" from all the mental stimulation & "getting involved" ( for the already thwacked nervous system) with juggling moving, working, etc. etc. etc. and posting here lately. Actually, the question often arises, "What am I doing being involved in an egroup & posting messages." Rajas looming high! (One of those times I referred to Michael : ( ) But I have met a few friends along the way and that has been well worth it. Forgive my unconsciousness as it seems i've been tripping over my words; into my head and out of my heart, along with the boxes that are in my house. All my love, ~jessica Quote
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