Guest guest Posted October 4, 2000 Report Share Posted October 4, 2000 Namaste All, Musing on Harha's comment on loneliness. It feels to me like the loneliness of the long distance runner. You have to feel it and do it yourself. The more consciousness of the illusory separation of our mnds and the Universal the more the loneliness perhaps. The orignal feeling of duality must in essence surely be that of loneliness. How many times did I write loneliness.? ONS Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2000 Report Share Posted October 4, 2000 When you are alone you are not alone, you are simply lonely - and there is a tremendous difference between loneliness and aloneness. When you are lonely you are thinking of the other, you are missing the other. Loneliness is a negative state. You are feeling that it would have been better if the other were there - your friend, your wife, your mother, your beloved, your husband. It would have been good if the other were there, but the other is not. Loneliness is absence of the other. Aloneness is the presence of oneself. Aloneness is very positive. It is a presence, overflowing presence. You are so full of presence that you can fill the whole universe with your presence and there is no need for anybody. Osho The Discipline of Transcendence, Volume 1 Chapter 2 Commentary: When there is no "significant other" in our lives we can either be lonely, or enjoy the freedom that solitude brings. When we find no support among others for our deeply felt truths, we can either feel isolated and bitter, or celebrate the fact that our vision is strong enough even to survive the powerful human need for the approval of family, friends or colleagues. If you are facing such a situation now, be aware of how you are choosing to view your "aloneness" and take responsibility for the choice you have made. The humble figure in this card glows with a light that emanates from within. One of Gautam Buddha's most significant contributions to the spiritual life of humankind was to insist to his disciples, "Be a light unto yourself." Ultimately, each of us must develop within ourselves the capacity to make our way through the darkness without any companions, maps or guide. -Osho Love, Mary Tony O'Clery wrote: Namaste All, Musing on Harha's comment on loneliness. It feels to me like the loneliness of the long distance runner. You have to feel it and do it yourself. The more consciousness of the illusory separation of our mnds and the Universal the more the loneliness perhaps. The orignal feeling of duality must in essence surely be that of loneliness. How many times did I write loneliness.? ONS Tony. -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> Beliefnet- Religion and spirituality from A to Z. http://click./1/9039/9/_/520931/_/970682052/ --> // All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription between digest and normal mode. Attachment: (image/gif) C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\nsmailND.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 Namaste Mary et al, I suppose what I mean is that the original loneliness is the duality, or individuality. I wasn't talking of human attachments, like wife, family etc, which ultimately are illusions and have to be left also. If one is in a state of adwaita or moksha there can be no duality therefore no loneliness. Om Namah Sivaya, Tony. Thanks for the quote though. , Mary Bianco <mary@m...> wrote: > When you are > alone you are > not alone, you > are simply > lonely - and > there is a > tremendous > difference > between > loneliness and > aloneness. > When you are > lonely you are > thinking of the > other, you are > missing the > other. > > Loneliness is a negative state. You are feeling > that it would have been better if the other were > there - your friend, your wife, your mother, your > beloved, your husband. It would have been > good if the other were there, but the other is not. > Loneliness is absence of the other. > > Aloneness is the presence of oneself. > Aloneness is very positive. It is a presence, > overflowing presence. You are so full of > presence that you can fill the whole universe > with your presence and there is no need for > anybody. > > Osho The Discipline of Transcendence, Volume > 1 Chapter 2 > > Commentary: > > When there is no "significant other" in our lives > we can either be lonely, or enjoy the freedom > that solitude brings. When we find no support > among others for our deeply felt truths, we can > either feel isolated and bitter, or celebrate the > fact that our vision is strong enough even to > survive the powerful human need for the > approval of family, friends or colleagues. > > If you are facing such a situation now, be aware > of how you are choosing to view your > "aloneness" and take responsibility for the > choice you have made. > > The humble figure in this card glows with a light > that emanates from within. One of Gautam > Buddha's most significant contributions to the > spiritual life of humankind was to insist to his > disciples, "Be a light unto yourself." Ultimately, > each of us must develop within ourselves the > capacity to make our way through the darkness > without any companions, maps or guide. > -Osho > > Love, Mary > > [image] > Tony O'Clery wrote: > > > Namaste All, > > > > Musing on Harha's comment on loneliness. It feels to me like the > > loneliness of the long distance runner. You have to feel it and do it > > yourself. The more consciousness of the illusory separation of our > > mnds and the Universal the more the loneliness perhaps. The orignal > > feeling of duality must in essence surely be that of loneliness. > > > > How many times did I write loneliness.? > > > > ONS Tony. > > > > > > // > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > > > To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at > > www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar > > on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription > > between digest and normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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