Moller/Questioning 'I am not the feelings/thought..I am That'

[Guest guest]

 

Advaita [Advaita]

 

What appears as the 'self-evidence' of the 'I' is really a lie. It

is untruth being mistaken for truth. It is Samsara being mistaken for

the first glimpse of Nirvana. It is the mind perpetuating itself as

suffering and duality. It is the very essense of illusion and

self-delusion. The 'I' which presents itself to the initial enquirer,

and which is presented to him/her by Maharshi as a sign of the

enlightened consciousness, is categorically of a diffrerent nature in

its functioning and presentation as any presumed 'deeper' awareness to

which Maharshi might point.

 

'I'-consciousness is not on a continuum with 'Consciousness as the

essense of life' - if there is such a thing, state, non-thing. A

categorical break between the deluded 'I'-conscious state and the

wholeness of life has to happen. It is beacuse this distinction to my

understanding has not been drawn by Maharshi, that I have referred to

his teaching as naive and even misleading, underestiaming and not

understanding and appreciating the depth of the dualistic world

vision.

 

This is my understanding.

 

Love Moller.

 

Moller, I appreciate your post and the passion with which you speak and make

your points. Even during the time that the Sage of Arunachala was living in

the body, at least a few of his devotees went and stayed with Sri Aurbindo

for some time due to their differing orientations about the nature of

practice. What you say is indeed useful for many people and from many

perspectives. It has always been like that. People will be attracted to

different teachings depending on their already existing tendencies in

certain directions.

 

Your last paragraph is questionable and my experience is in fact just the

opposite. The categorical break that you speak of in consciousness is indeed

a delusion. No doubt there are many dramatic spiritual experiences which can

give the impression of breaks in consciousness, appear to change

consciousness and expand it and give it a variety of visionary and other

experiences. This is especially true for those in whom Kundalini Shakti is

manifesting. Almost 22 years ago, when I opened my eyes after Nirvikalpa

Samadhi, it was obvious to me that there is indeed absolutely no break in

consciousness whatsoever. What is There in the Highest Samadhi is Here in

the normal state or whatever state one is in.

 

Love

Harsha

> A spiritually mature mind is not seduced by a false teaching or a

false

> teacher that promises something which you do not have. The wise

remain

> utterly contented with what they have, their own nature, and where

they are,

> in their own Self, and see the bait of higher wisdom and knowledge

(to be

> given by someone else) as a mirage without any foundation what so

ever.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

[Guest guest]

"Harsha" wrote:

What is There in the Highest Samadhi is Here in

> the normal state or whatever state one is in.

>

> Love

> Harsha

 

Ten thousand million pranams! Blessings of every kind!

Thank you, Dear Harsha!

 

Smiling Widely Here

 

Peace - Michael

[Guest guest]

 

Michael Read [maread]

 

"Harsha" wrote:

What is There in the Highest Samadhi is Here in

> the normal state or whatever state one is in.

>

> Love

> Harsha

 

Ten thousand million pranams! Blessings of every kind!

Thank you, Dear Harsha!

 

Smiling Widely Here

 

Peace - Michael

 

Ah Michael! You understand. Just as I suspected (:-).

 

Love

Harsha