Sri Gurdjieff / Collette

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On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 02:02:09 colette wrote:

>Hi Amanda. My good friend Piph studied Gurdjieff's teachings with E.J

>Gold. I have asked Piph to help illuminate us about the kundabuffer &

>prana. She is writing me something to share. Would you like her reply

>here on list or by email?

 

Thanks for asking your friend about that, Collette.

 

If your friend wanted to write a short article about the kundabuffer for the

magazine, she is of course more than welcome to send it to me personally for

inclusion.

 

If she rather wanted to write something more informal, short and not intended

for publication, she is of course more than welcome to send it to the list.

 

Of course, I'd prefer an article for the magazine, but the choice must be up

to your friend and how much time she has to write and what she wants to do. Give

her a carte blanche. Thanks again.

 

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

 

 

 

 

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, "mumble cat" <mumblecat@a...>

wrote:

>

> Of course, I'd prefer an article for the magazine, but the

choice must be up to your friend and how much time she has to write

and what she wants to do. Give her a carte blanche. Thanks

again.

>

> Love,

>

> Amanda.

 

 

Hi Amanda I gave Piph a carte blanche but unfortnately she has just

moved hundreds of miles & is still resettling, plus she is a serious

Gurdjieffian so has given these comments ..

 

'Unless one understands the kundabuffer there is no possible way to

relate Gurdjieff's associations to kundalini. Kundabuffer is

something

Gurdjieff wrote reams of paper on. There is no way I can explain it

in

a short message. However it relates to kundalini only in that man

believes kundalini to be something, according to Gurdjieff for what

it

is not. The kundabuffer was a special implant in man to perform a

cosmic balancing act needed on a cosmic level .. '

 

Piph is concerned that to do justice to the message & not distort it

study should be done so as to understand it for self, so she has

offered these comments ...

 

'Here are the references that should be studied if you have time.

>From 'Beelzebub's Tales to his Grandson'

 

On kundabuffer

 

page 1162 "that something accursed for them..."

from 88 and 1222 "the sacred members of this Most High Commission..."

from 89, 249-250 and 673 "two views concerning the removal of this

organ..."

374 ""almost all of your favorites wished and began to strive..."

695-696 "when it bacame clear that thanks to the unforeseeingness of

certain..."

1183 "the sole means now for the saving of the beings of planet

Earth..."

1219-1220 "the chief difficulty in the way of liberation from whole

entire slavery consists in this..."

1222 "the particularity of the action of the consequences of the said

organ..."

430 "cocaine has an effect on the psyche surprisingly similar to

that..."

 

consequences of the organ kundabuffer

 

105, 236-7, 354, 358, 264, 374, 673, 694, 1059, 1220-1

 

on kundalina confused with kundabuffer

 

250

 

on prana

 

245 "and this Great All-embracing of all that is embraced, is called

Holy

Prana..."

also 246-7 and 258'

 

Hope that is useful Amanda.

 

Peace,

 

Col

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mumble cat wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 02:02:09 colette wrote:

>

> >Hi Amanda. My good friend Piph studied Gurdjieff's teachings with E.J

> >Gold. I have asked Piph to help illuminate us about the kundabuffer &

> >prana. She is writing me something to share. Would you like her reply

> >here on list or by email?

>

> Thanks for asking your friend about that, Collette.

 

This is where it gets a little sticky. E.J. Gold never worked with

Mr. Gurdjieff. The hard line Gurdjieff followers feel that it

is an oral tradition and there has to be a direct line to Mr.

Gurdjieff for it to be legitimate.

 

Personally, I do not have an opinion. Or more accurately, I

have several opinions.

 

Marcia