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Marcia Paul [jacpa]

 

Harsha wrote:

> Here, the futility of obsessing with dichotomies is seen for what it is.

> Giving undue importance to certain mental constructs keeps the mind

hopping

> with joy! Naturally! And that is OK. The mind is the ultimate trickster

and

> entertainer.

>

> The mind grasps at the "truth" through refinement of concepts. But the

> grasping itself is false because the mind/personality fundamentally is a

> particularized condition that arises in consciousness. To change and

> paraphrase somewhat a Bruce quote of Krishnamurti speaking of the "I".

 

Hi Harsha,

 

This is a question even though it may sound like a statement.

I wonder about giving the mind something to do to keep

it busy without the obsessing or grasping part. I remember

once putting together a huge lotus model of a business

and I had to keep my attention or I would get circular

arguments when I hit the enter key. It seemed that I

was somewhat free when my mind was occupied.

 

Marcia

 

What you say makes sense Marcia. I suspect many religions and traditions

make use of that in terms of prayers and incantations. Certain techniques of

meditation involving mantra and visualizations do that as well. Students are

advised to practice without getting frustrated or grasping. At some point,

the method appears to become magical and visions and deities start to appear

in consciousness. Sometimes Consciousness Recognizes itself as Awareness,

from which all things appear to rise.

 

Love to all

Harsh

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Beloved Harsh... you stated below

At some point,the method appears to become magical and visions and

deities start to appearin consciousness. Sometimes Consciousness

Recognizes itself as Awareness,from which all things appear to

rise.Love to allHarsh Could the "appearance" of deities in

consciousness be that of what is called the archetypal world, the

Awareness of? Can this appear in whatever belief system the

individual adheres too?

Love, Robert

// All paths go

somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions,

and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back

into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It

is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the

Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self.

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Namaste All,

 

Constant visualising and chanting imprints the image at the neural

level. At this point it is a sign or image not consciously created

by the mind. I think the Buddhists call it the counterpart sign.

 

It is useful to some people for concentration, or a god figure.

 

Love Tony.

 

 

, "Skyeryder" <Skyeryder@e...> wrote:

> Beloved Harsh... you stated below

>

> At some point,

> the method appears to become magical and visions and deities start

to appear

> in consciousness. Sometimes Consciousness Recognizes itself as

Awareness,

> from which all things appear to rise.

>

> Love to all

> Harsh

>

> Could the "appearance" of deities in consciousness be that of

what is

> called the archetypal world, the Awareness of? Can this appear in

whatever

> belief system the individual adheres too?

>

> Love, Robert

>

>

> //

>

> All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

> perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and

subside

> back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not

different than

> the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness.

> Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home.

Home is

> where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of

Eternal

> Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge,

spontaneously

> arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

>

> To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at

> www., and select the User Center link

from the

> menu bar

> on the left. This menu will also let you change

your

> subscription

> between digest and normal mode.

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